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Index of Articles to
Help You Sell Your Collection:
Quick Facts on
How to Sell Your Baseball Cards
Details on Selling a Baseball Card
Collection
Selling a
Card Collection
How much
money can I really get for my card
collection?
Determining which vintage cards have
value
1.) Pre-War
Cards
2.) VintageCards - 1948 to
1969
3.) Semi-Vintage Cards - 1970 to
1979
4.) Modern Cards - Issued after
1979
Why wouldn't I
sell my cards on eBay myself?
So what
happend to eBay?
When NOT to sell a
baseball cards collection
I am
uncomfortable sending my collection through the
mail
"I
will just hold on to the cards. They can only go up in value
right?"
"Why
should I sell my card collection to Dean's
Cards?"
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Quick Facts on How to Sell Your
Baseball Cards:
•
Dean's Cards buys over 500 collections a year and pays "top dollar"
for collections.
• The
first step in selling a collection is to fill out the form at the
bottom of this page. Please give me a general idea of how
many cards you have and from what years. I check my e-mail all the
time and will answer you back within a few hours and send you all
kinds of information on how we buy cards and what we
pay.
• If
you call our office, we will still need you to fill out the form as
the first step. Once we trade basic information and qualify the
collection, I would be glad to speak to you on the phone - if need
be.
• Most
people are shocked to learn that almost all of the cards issued
after 1980 have such a low value that they are rarely worth the
postage required to mail them.
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Details on
Selling a Baseball Card
Collection
Whether you are thinking of selling your
boyhood collection or you have been handed the responsibility of
liquidating the collection of a family member, it can be a very
daunting task. This article reviews the options open to a person
selling a vintage sports card collection and will hopefully assist
in "parting the fog" on how to get the most money possible for your
collection.
If
you are interested in selling a collection, or just a few cards,
Dean's Cards will buy your collection. Dean's Cards spends
thousands of dollars each week on Vintage Collectibles. We will
purchase Memorabilia, Magazines, and pre-1980 baseball, football,
hockey, basketball and even non-sports cards, the older the better.
We will buy the whole collection. We will also buy complete sets
from 1985 and older, plus any Reprint or Archives Sets. If you have
sports magazines or books to sell, please see our article on
selling magazines.
While there is no shortage of dealers who
will buy vintage collections, Dean's Cards is able to offer higher
percentage of the collection's actual value than most traditional
card dealers. Dean's Cards can usually pay more for vintage card
and memorabilia collections simply because what we buy goes
directly into our own online inventory of close to a million cards.
In fact, quite a few card shop owners who buy collections will
regularly send them to us - knowing that they will make a nice
margin on the cards.
Dean's Cards offers the best selection of
vintage and modern sports cards and memorabilia available online.
In order to do so, we are continuously purchasing collections. We
spend thousands of dollars every week on collectables. Dean's Cards
makes selling your collection an extremely easy process. When we
receive your cards, we are usually able to provide you with our bid
within two business days. We make our top offer right away. If you
accept our offer, we will mail you a check.
I sincerely hope that we end up writing you a large check! This
means you have some nice cards and we always need the inventory. If
the amount that we offer for your cards falls below your
expectations, we will pay the postage to return the collection to
you.
Although this article contains my opinions
(and definitely my biases), hopefully the information provided will
save you considerable time and effort and also help you get the
best possible price for your collection. Let me state up front that
we buy over 500 vintage collections each year - so my opinion is
biased (as are most of the opinions presented about the card
collecting hobby.) I also believe that what Dean's Cards can pay
for a collection is more than you will get elsewhere - so it is in
both our interests for me to give you as many facts as possible to
help you make the best possible decision. So, here
goes....
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Selling a Card
Collection
Quite often people that have never
collected vintage sports cards inherit the responsibility of
selling a vintage card collection. It can seem like an overwhelming
responsibility. The first thing that some people do is go to their
local baseball card shop (if they can still find one) to ask what
the collection is worth. Most are surprised to discover that they
are often offered a few pennies on the dollar of a collection's
stated book value.
The dealer at the card store usually offers
a brief economic lesson of card collecting in order to explain the
low amount that he is offering. The dealer may explain that there
are numerous reasons that the cards are worth such a low amount and
gives examples such as: buyers seldom pay "full book price" on
cards and the shop must pay rent, labor, insurance, and other types
of store overhead to cover the stores' expenses. He may also tell
you that a card may sit in inventory for months or even years
before it eventually sells. All of these reasons may be true, but
there is a much more important reason that the "strip mall" card
dealer can only pay the collector a few pennies on the dollar for a
vintage card collection.
The main reason that their offer is so low
is that retail card stores sell mostly the newer collectibles.
Their clientele is often kids (and maybe their fathers) who collect
the new sports cards, fantasy cards or even comic books. Unlike
Dean's Cards, vintage cards are not their specialty. Card shops
serve a different niche of the hobby. For every collector of the
vintage sports cards, there are probably a hundred new card
collectors. Most of the new card collectors prefer the current
players that they recognize and can still see play at the
ballparks. Most card shops keep a few vintage baseball cards in the
display case for show, but it is impossible for a retail card store
to do enough traffic to sell more than a few vintage baseball
cards.
On a side note, the traditional "strip mall" card shop is quickly
disappearing, mainly because it is so much more efficient and
convenient to buy and sell cards online. Only a fraction of the
stores remain from the ones that were in existence 25 years ago.
Most vintage card buying and selling now occurs online. According
to a top hobby newsletter, there were about 5000 sports cards shops
in the early 1990's. Today that number is below 500 and getting
lower every year.
The "strip mall" card shops simply serve a
different niche of the hobby. They either quickly liquidate the
vintage collection on eBay themselves or wholesale the cards to
another dealer - like Dean's Cards. The card shops are forced to
pay less for cards, because they do not have a direct way to sell
the cards. Online auctions are usually not the best option, because
they generally appeal to bargain hunters and rarely bring top
prices for collectables.
Most people are shocked to learn that it is
not unusual for a large collection to change hands between four or
five dealers before the items are made available to the individual
collector. Each dealer in the process will take out some of the
cards and then sell the remainder of the collection to the next
dealer for a profit, even if you find a dealer who is experienced
in selling online. The dealer must price the cards for quick sale
and is rarely able to pay more than they are assured of receiving
from the online auctions.
At
Dean's Cards, we offer a different concept than you will find with
other dealers. We buy collections from dealers all the time and pay
the same percentages to them as we do the individual collectors.
Dean's Cards can pay more for vintage card and memorabilia
collections, because what we buy goes directly into our own online
inventory. This way we can both avoid the
middleman.
Dean's Cards is often called the "Amazon" of vintage sports cards
and is recognized within the hobby as the #1 Online Seller of
vintage cards. Although some other dealers came to be #1 in online
sales, no other dealer has more than a fraction of our online
inventory.
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How much Money can I really get
for my Card Collection?
Often when it comes time for the
non-collector to sell a card collection, they are surprised to
learn that no one will offer them anywhere near the Book Value
Price for the cards. Here are a couple reasons why this may
occur:
• The
Book Value are refers to cards that are in Near Mint condition.
Cards that grade "NEAR MINT" still have sharp corners, good
centering and no gum stains or pen marks on the card. Very few
vintage cards (less than 2%) grade as high as NEAR MINT. Since most
cards were originally bought and handled by kids, a very low
percentage of the cards remain in high quality condition. Most of
the cards that I collected when I was a kid would be graded in FAIR
to VERY GOOD Condition - which means that the card's Adjusted (for
condition) Book Value is worth 10% to 30% of the Full Book Value!
Even cards that are graded in "EXCELLENT" condition sell for half
the price of the cards in "Near Mint" condition. The reason that
the book value of some cards is so high is that so few vintage
cards remain in pristine condition. The Book Value of a card is
almost meaningless. It is the Adjusted Book Value that is much more
relevant to a vintage cards actual value.
• The
"Book Value" is the Suggested or the "Pie in the Sky" Price. Few
collectors are willing to pay the book value price for cards. On
the Dean's Cards website we list the Adjusted Book Value as the
price of the cards, but we are forced to discount this price in the
way of quantity discounts to remain competitive. Many cards will
sell online for a fraction of their Adjusted Book
Value.
• Card
Dealers need to make a profit on the cards to cover their time and
expenses. Most cards dealers have the expense of renting a table at
a card show or in the case of Dean's Cards - the advertising,
labor, and hosting expenses of a website. Not to mention it takes
months (or years) to sell the cards that we have in
inventory.
Non-Collectors tend to over grade the
condition of cards. Card Collectors can be very picky! You can read
about card grading in much more detail in our article on "How We
Grade Vintage Cards", but please realize that card grading takes
years to perfect. It is very common for a novice card seller to
contact us and state "My cards are in MINT Condition". Very seldom
does this turn out to be the case. Dean's Cards will certain buy
vintage cards in almost any condition, but it is important to
realize that the condition affects the value of the
card.
The good news is that - if you bought your
cards as kid - you are going to make a great return on your
investment. How many of your other childhood toys can you say this
about?
To
help put this into perspective, I have a great story about a
Financial Investment Advisor that sold us a collection of his cards
from the mid 1950's. This guy made a lot of money in his profession
and his expectations were that he was going to make a fortune
selling this collection. After all, he had read the stories of
people making tons of money selling their collections. He checked a
half a dozen dealers or so and told me, although Dean's Cards (by
far) offered the most for his cards, he was still a little
disappointed in the bid.
First, I suggested that if he was still
emotionally attached to the cards - then he should not sell them.
After all, they are his cards. But I also wanted to help him put
this in perspective so I broke it down into terms that he was
familiar with. First, we figured out the original purchase price
for the cards. We figured that he bought these 2000 cards in the
50's for a penny a piece (5 cards came in a Nickel Pack) to get the
gum. That was a $20 investment.
I
forget the actual figures, but let's say that we offered him $1000
for the collection. This would be a return of 50 times his
investment or 5000%! He was shocked. His comment was "I wish that I
could get that return on my client's investments. We are doing
great if we can average 15% per year for my clients!"
The bottom line is that they are your cards
and you certainly do not have to sell them. Many collectors never
do sell the cards, until there is a special event which encourages
them to do so for the money. Typical examples include: Weddings,
Sending Kids to College or paying off a big bill. Most collectors
keep the cards until they die and then let their heirs worry about
what to do with the collection.
Often there is too much of an emotional
attachment for the seller to part with his "boyhood memories". The
cards often sit in a closet until the original collector dies. I
certainly understand this sentimental attachment and will probably
never sell my personal collection. But if you have not looked at
the cards in years, it may make sense to do something useful with
the proceeds that you could get for the cards.
It is often the family member that inherits the collection that
ends up selling the cards. If you come to the point where you feel
that the value of the collection could be put to better use then
please contact us. You have my word that you will be treated fairly
and honestly and that we will pay top dollar for your
collection.
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Determining which Vintage Cards
have value
The purpose of this section is to provide
sellers with as much information as possible into which cards have
value and which ones do not. For educational purposes, let's divide
the sports cards into four basic classifications or
eras.
1. Pre-War
Cards
Pre-War (WWII) Cards have the most value on
a per card basis. Although the prices quoted for these cards are
typically high, much depends on the condition of the cards. Dean's
Cards will purchase these cards in almost any condition. Many of
the cards that have survived are not in top condition and this
definitely affects the value of the cards.
It
is difficult for the collecting novice to determine what years
these cards were issued by just looking at the card. Another
confusing problem is that most of the pre-war sets have been
reissued in the form of reprint (or archives) sets. These sets have
been released over the last 15 or so years.
Unfortunately, sellers will send us a Ruth
or Gehrig Card that they bought for $100 at a Flea Market a few
years back, only to discover that it is a reprint card issued in
the 1990's that was roughed up to look old. Please be careful when
buying these cards. Most of the cards for this era show wear, so if
you have a card like this in great shape; chances are that it is
not an original. The value of the reprinted cards in very low when
compared to the original cards.
When you hear about a particular card being
worth a lot of money, it is most often from the Pre-War Era. But
the card that is worth thousands of dollars is definitely the rare
exception. Most of the very valuable cards are super stars that are
in near perfect condition. The cards of the common players in
average condition are worth far less money. Most of the newspaper
articles or TV interviews that I have seen, paint an unrealistic
value on these cards. For example, I once saw an "expert" on the
Antiques Road Show overestimate the value of a collection by 25
times! I personally know many people in this hobby, but never heard
of this "expert". It may make for good TV, but it confuses many of
the people that are seriously trying to sell a
collection.
It
is important to remember the old "Economics 101" Lesson about
Supply and Demand. The supply of the pre-war cards is low, which
drives up the value. But, because of the higher price of the
pre-war cards, the demand is also fairly low, when compared to the
newer cards.
When one thinks about this, it makes sense.
Suppose that you were starting a card collection, and had a limited
amount of money that you could spend. Would you spend it on a few
expensive pre-war cards that contained pictures of players that are
long since dead? The answer for most collectors is
"No".
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2. Vintage Cards - 1948 to
1969
Vintage Cards are still relatively
available. Collectors can still afford to complete the sets.
Vintage Cards definitely have value and Dean's Cards will always
purchase these cards in just about any condition. These cards are
also fun because many of us collectors are old enough to have seen
these guys play ball.
If
you have a vintage card collection, it is definitely worth some
money. The checks that we write to the sellers of these cards are
often very large, partly because the Vintage Card Collections are
usually much bigger when compared to the numbers of cards in
Pre-War Collections.
There are no numbers published on the sales
of vintage cards, but I am confident that no one sells more cards
online than Dean's Cards. One reason for this is the size of our
inventory. In order to maintain our superior selection, we buy
hundreds of card collections a year. Sellers (who shop around)
routinely tell us that we pay more for collections than other
dealers.
To
determine what year a vintage card was issued, simply look at the
player's statistics on the back of the card. Most of the cards will
have the "stats" listed out by years. Just take the most recent
year on the card and add one, to determine the year that the card
was issued. For example, if the card has statistics for the player
for the years 1959 through 1966 - this means the card was issued in
1967.
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3. Semi-Vintage Cards - 1970 to
1979
As
far as I know, I coined the term "Semi-Vintage" for the cards from
the 1970's. It seems to make more sense and reduce confusion for
both collectors and card sellers.
Semi-Vintage Cards have been gaining
popularity in the last couple years. Dean's Cards has made a big
effort to support these cards, because the cards from the seventies
have allowed a new generation of vintage card collectors to enter
the hobby due to the affordability of the cards. Besides, many of
the guys that collected these cards as kids are now middle aged and
starting to come back into the hobby. The Cards from the 1970's are
still very affordable and readily available, but unlike the cards
from the 1980's, where there are millions of cards available,
completing a set can be a fun challenge.
Semi-Vintage Cards are a great entry point
into the hobby. This trend is a positive for the industry and we
want to do all that we can to encourage new people to start
collecting vintage cards.
Semi-Vintage Cards have been traditionally
ignored by dealers. Dean's Cards is one of few card dealers that
sells the individual cards from the 1970's. The reason for the lack
of dealer interest has been the low price of the cards. Dealers can
make more money selling the older cards. Simply put, it costs a
dealer the same amount to value, bid, put into plastic sleeves,
grade, sort, enter into the database, scan, file, retrieve, and
then mail a 50 cent card as it does a $250 card. This makes for a
much lower (or non-existent) profit margin.
Cards from the 1970's are very common and
there are many of the cards in existence that are in the same great
shape as they were when they came out of the packs. Therefore the
collectors of 1970's cards tend to be very picky in terms of the
card's condition. Seventies Cards that were badly abused (my
boyhood cards come to mind) are almost worthless.
Another drawback is that Semi-Vintage Cards
can be more difficult for a dealer to buy. Even though we see ten
times the number of semi-vintage cards available for purchase, when
compared to the number of vintage cards available - they can be
laborious to purchase. The value of the bid is usually lower,
because the cards are worth less. As a result, the success rate of
buying the (lower margin and less popular) seventies cards was
lower. It takes us almost as much time to bid on a $50 collection
as it does a $500 collection - with a much lower success
rate.
It
is an interesting study in human nature. For example, if a seller
sends us a box of cards from the 1960's and gets an offer of $500
for the cards - they are thrilled. That same seller could send the
same box of cards - filled with cards from the 1970's and because
the cards have less value, we may only be able to offer $50. In
some cases, the seller feels insulted. In these cases, we spend
time and postage with no positive result. This is the reason that
the majority of dealers do not handle cards from the
1970's.
We
are not opposed to buying collections from the 1970's, but we can
not afford the time and cost involved to go through a bidding
process on them. All too often, we will make a fair bid and the
seller thinks the collection is worth more. We then have to send it
back. It turns out to be a waste of everyone's time and shipping
costs. As it turned out - the older, more valuable collections are
much easier to buy. We have found that over 90% of our bids on the
older collections are accepted by the sellers, where as the success
rate on the newer collections was less than 50%!
Unfortunately, baseball cards are only
worth what someone is willing to pay for them. That fact does not
always make sense to me and can be down right perplexing to the
novice. There have been occasions where what we paid in postage to
return cards was worth far more than the value of the
collection!
We
would very much like for you to send us your semi-vintage cards. We
want to buy them, but we are forced to treat these cards a little
different than we do the older cards. We will value them fairly and
send you a check. We will certainly pay you fair market value -
probably much more than you will receive elsewhere - but you will
have to trust our judgment on these particular cards. Please
understand - We can not return the cards - but simply send you a
check. Please do not send the cards if you are going to be
disappointed. I am sorry that we must be so rigid, but these are
the only conditions that work for us on semi-vintage
cards.
That said; we would love to buy your
semi-vintage cards. We will do the best that we can in terms of
payment, but many of these collections have a low or marginal
value. Some people have received some very nice checks. The point
to take away here about semi-vintage cards is that they definitely
have some value, but it also important to have realistic
expectations about their worth. The seller is just not going to get
rich selling a semi-vintage collection.
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4. Modern Cards - Issued after
1979
The card collecting hobby really started
gaining popularity in the late seventies and by the eighties most
people began to realize that baseball cards had value. As a result,
kids stopped putting the cards between the spokes of the wheels of
their bikes and instead placed them in protective plastic sleeves.
Mothers no longer threw out the cards. Topps began making huge
profits, and (most importantly) many card companies emerged and
started printing many more cards. Collectors bought the cards by
the case for investment purposes. Life was good!
Modern Cards are more vivid than the older
cards. Sports Cards have continued to evolve over time and
the product has definately improved. We sell quite a few of
these new cards, as they are very fun to collect. The problem
is the value of cards is directly dependent on the economic factors
of supply and demand that I have referred to throughout this
article.
The demand for these cards is fine, but the
supply is hundreds of times higher than that of earlier cards.
During the 1990's the number of sports cards printed each year is
greater than the total number of cards produced before 1980. During
the last few decades, there were often over 300 sets of sports
cards issued each year!
The result is that cards issued after 1980
are almost worthless! I personally do not think that this will
change anytime this century. There are just too many cards and the
demand will not catch up to the supply anytime soon. People have
begun throwing away cards again!
As
far as the current issues of cards go, I heard one dealer say that
"New Cards have the shelf life of produce." There are so many sets
issued every year that the collectors are not sure what to collect.
While they have value today, they are nearly worthless when the
next year's card is issued. The point is this: go ahead and buy the
new cards (and PLEASE encourage your kids to collect them), enjoy
them and have fun with them, but it is probably not a good move to
buy them as an investment.
This comes as a terrible shock to many
people. After all, a baseball card is a baseball card - right?
Unfortunately the answer is "No". If you have cards issued after
1980, your best option is to keep them and enjoy them or donate the
cards to charity and take the tax deduction.
There are a few cards from after 1979 that
Dean's Cards can purchase. We will buy complete sets from 1985 or
earlier and any of the Reprint or Replica Sets of the older cards.
We will also buy the Rookie Cards of the Super Stars from 1985 and
earlier. Even these cards sell well below their Book Value. Dean's
Cards does sell Modern Cards, but we acquire most of our inventory
online at discount prices in large quantities.
To
avoid hurting feelings (and also being misquoted), one last comment
is needed. Collectors tend to be very sentimental about their
boyhood cards and tend to get dented emotionally when they discover
these cards are worthless. After all, back in the 1980's there were
even publications on which cards to buy as investments. At the
time, there was even talk of a Baseball Card Limited Partnership
that would speculate by purchasing cards! I am not sure if it ever
came to pass, but it helps provide insight into the mental attitude
of the time.
If
you bought 1980's cards as an investment and just knew that one day
they would be worth a pile of money, please do not feel too bad.
Many of us did the exact same thing, but it just did not work out.
Today, there are thousands of unopened cases of late 1980's and
1990's cards. It is extremely unlikely, that the demand will ever
catch up with the supply enough to allow these cards to appreciate
to the value levels that the vintage cards enjoy.
We
had one collector write us an angry e-mail and tell us how wrong we
were and that his 1980's cards did have value. (He probably had
been resisting his wife's attempt to unload them for years while
telling her that the cards were worth a fortune!) He said that "The
cards do have value and that some of the star cards were selling on
eBay for as much as a dollar."
Okay. He was technically correct. Some of
these cards do eventually sell for about a dollar. The problem is
that there is often dozens of that same card selling for a dollar.
This means that you may have to list it several times (at a cost of
40 cents a listing) to get a buyer. This does not take into account
the time it takes to scan and list the card. So, technically the
cards do have some value. But it would be very hard to cover your
expenses when trying to sell them.
I
am not saying this to be mean or cruel, but only for the purpose of
providing potential sellers with accurate and realistic
information. We often come across people who have literally spent
months of their time sorting and cataloging thousands of cards only
to discover that the collection is worthless.
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Why wouldn't I sell my cards on
eBay myself?
This is a common question that we are asked
when purchasing a collection. There are two main answers: 1)
Selling items on eBay is much more difficult than one would think,
and 2) eBay is no longer "the place" that most sports cards are
bought. Most buyers have found better places to buy
cards.
It
is not commonly known that most of the items sold on eBay are sold
by Professional Sellers - not the individual trying to unload a few
items.
Online sellers are required to invest many
hours to conduct a successful eBay Auction. The seller must set up
an account, purchase auction software, inventory the cards, list
the cards, grade the cards, scan the cards, arrange payment
options, pay commissions to eBay, collect the funds, package and
mail the cards out to different places. Even then it is necessary
to deal with returns and refunds for the hard to please customers.
Selling on eBay is a lot of work!
Dean's Cards (and most other sellers) have
a professional, trained staff to handle this process. We have found
that selling on eBay has become so labor intensive and expensive,
due to the ever increasing fees. We sold cards on eBay years ago,
but discontinued the practice because of the huge time and
expense.
Few people realize that a Card Dealer has
to perform 21 steps to Buy and then Sell a Baseball Card. The steps
are: 1) Read the e-mail from the Seller, 2) Qualify the Collection,
3) Respond to the Seller, 4) Receive the Collection, 5) Appraise
the Cards, 6) e-mail our Offer, 7) Send the Check, 8) Sort the
Cards, 9) Stuff into Plastic Sleeves, 10) Grade each Card, 11)
Enter each Card into Database, 12) Scan many of the cards, 13) File
them into Inventory, 14) Store Them, 15) Sell Them, 16) Fill the
Order, 17) Verify the Order is Correct, 18) Process the Payment,
19) Package the Order, 20) Add Postage, and then 21) Mail the
Cards. This assumes that the customer is satisfied and the order
does not require any follow-up activity.
If we mess up on any one of these steps - we must go back and
correct it. We have a staff of a dozen experienced employees and we
still have some cards that we have bought five years ago that are
not yet listed online! Our labor cost is a huge part of our
expense.
There are many subtle nuisances to Selling
Cards Online that are not addressed here and some skills that are
required that literally take years of experience. For example,
there is available literature on Card Grading, including our
article on How We Grade Vintage Cards , but the simple truth is
that Card Grading is a skill that takes months to learn and years
to perfect. Most novices do not know what to look for and tend to
"over grade" their cards. Vintage card collectors are a very picky
group!
When the work of selling items online is
finally completed, the seller seldom makes as much money as he or
she would have made if they sold the collection directly to Dean's
Cards. The auction process on eBay for the first time (even with a
small collection) could literally take months of a person's time to
complete. A large collection could easily take years to
liquidate.
The next problem in selling items on eBay
for the seller is that most collectors only buy cards from sellers
with established track records. Serious collectors will seldom
purchase cards from anyone with less than thousand positive
feedback references. To do so, is a major risk for the buyer. Even
with very good scans, it is often impossible to determine the true
condition of a card. The buyer must rely on the seller's reputation
and promise to refund the money if he or she is not
satisfied.
The few times that we have purchased cards from collectors without
established track records - the results were very disappointing.
The cards were sometimes inexpensive, but I was usually
dissatisfied in the quality of the cards that were sent to me. If
the seller does not have at least 1000 positive feedback
references, most bidders will shy away from that seller. As a
result, fewer people bid on those items and the money that seller
receives in bids will usually be a small fraction of the cards
worth.
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So What Happened to
eBay?
Since I originally wrote this article a few
years ago, the hobby has had huge changes in regard to eBay. It
began when eBay went public a few years back. They were still the
#1 seller of baseball cards. No one else was close. eBay (as are
all public companies are) was very concerned with continuously
increasing the company's profits. After all, most corporate
executives are paid bonuses on quarterly earnings. A few years ago,
the decision was made to raise the seller's fees on low dollar
items about 500% to increase the profits to meet the next quarter's
earnings.
Many dealers could no longer survive and
were forced to leave eBay. Some dealers stayed for a while and paid
the higher fees. The higher eBay seller's fees increased eBay's
revenue and decreased the support costs for that quarter - thus
created a short-term profit. Of the card dealers that remained,
many lost money and either soon left or reduced the number of items
that they listed online.
Very quickly, the vintage card selection
posted on eBay decreased and the customer went elsewhere to buy his
cards. When this happened, more sellers then left. It was a
very destructive trend. With less buyers using eBay are their
source for vintage sports cards, there is less demand and very
quickly the prices paid for the cards has also
decreased.
It
is an incredible business case study. eBay used to own the vintage
sports card market. Due to their quest for quick profits and short
term thinking, they have lost their niche. They lost many of their
loyal dealers and soon after lost the customers because of the lack
of product selection. I would have never have imagined that eBay
could have ruined a wonderful market niche so quickly. It is
amazing.
The bottom line is that a person could take
a year to liquidate a large collection on eBay and make far less -
after the selling expenses - than Dean's Cards would pay them for
the cards. This does not even include the cost of that person's
time.
If
you do not care about the profit you will make, it can be an
interesting experience, but it is a lot of work and you are
competing against professional sellers who have years of experience
and organized staffs to get the product sold. It would be much
like, making shirts in your basement and competing for sales
against the major department stores. It is certainly possible to
make some sales - but not necessarily practical or
profitable.
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When NOT to sell a
collection
Dean's Cards would appreciate the
opportunity to bid on your collection, but after buying thousands
of collections over the years, we have learned to identify a few
"red flags" that often signal when a collection will not get sold.
I bring this point up to share our experience and hopefully save
some people a lot of time and effort.
The most common reason that collectors end up not selling a
collection is that he may be still emotionally attached to the
cards. Even though a person may not have looked at his cards in
twenty years, once the cards come out of the closet those old
memories of his boyhood start to resurface. He is often transported
back to a simpler time and place.
After all that is what card collecting in
all about - middle aged men reliving their boyhoods! I certainly
understand this emotion and probably will not ever sell my
collection. Therefore the liquidation of the collections are
usually left to love ones or heirs who know little to nothing about
baseball cards.
Very often the original collector will have
a very unrealistic expectation of the collections true value.
Unfortunately, sports cards are only worth what someone is willing
to pay for them. That price rarely can satisfy a collector's
emotional value of the cards.
If
you are a collector and you feel that you will "sell the collection
IF the price is right", let me try to save you some time and
effort. The folks that we hear this comment from rarely end up
selling their collection. It seems the price never is and the
seller never does!
On
the other hand, the statement that we love to hear is "I decided
that I am definitely going to sell my collection. I want to get a
good price for it, but I am definitely going to sell it." It seems
we end up buying almost all of these collections. We do not mind
paying "top dollar".
Many of the times that the original
collector actually does sell the collection, the proceeds are often
earmarked for a special event. Checks from Dean's Cards have helped
pay for many weddings, cars and semesters of collage tuition. I
love hearing those stories. What a great way to use the money -
especially if your cards have been sitting in the closet for the
last ten years. It also gives a new vintage card collector a chance
to enjoy the cards.
On
the other hand, we also see people sell vintage collections to pay
off big bills. Although those stories are not near as happy, I am
still glad that the value of the cards can help out these families
in times of financial difficulty.
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I am Uncomfortable Sending My
Collection through the Mail
We
send and receive thousands of packages through the mail every year
and we have not lost one yet (Knock Wood!) The bigger concern that
people usually have is the fear of being taken advantage
of.
This is a very valid concern. I would also
be skeptical of sending anything of value to someone that I did not
know personally. I am sure that this fear keeps some people from
sending collections, but somehow we never have a problem getting
enough cards. I am not sure whether it is word of mouth or what. We
receive collections worth thousands of dollars almost every
day.
We
all hear the horror stories about people being taken advantage of
over the internet. I really do not know too much about it, just
because we have no first hand experience, but I tend to think that
these thieves are mainly the smaller dealers or not dealers at all.
I do not think that these "skunks" could stay in business (or out
of jail) very long with that type of behavior - but who
knows?
If
someone did as much business as Deans Cards and then cheated
people, I feel that they would probably get caught in some sort of
sting operation. Mail fraud is a federal offense that is taken very
seriously by the authorities. It is very easy for the police to act
like a seller and scan every card they sent, and then refuse to
sell the collection.
The best reason that I can give you for why
we try so hard to treat people fairly is that it is simply good
business. We do all our business by mail - both buying and selling
- and have taken great care to protect the reputation of our
business. Dean's Cards has never kept a card that does not belong
to us and we never will. If we treated people wrong, we would be
finished as a business.
We
have recently started a bulletin board where both buyers and
sellers of cards can leave feedback on their experience with Dean's
Cards and post how they felt they were treated. Just go to our
Message Board and you can read what other card sellers have said
about us.
We
have been fortunate enough to meet a lot of great people through my
online store, but we have also come across a few real "fruit
cakes"! Surprisingly, it has been very few. In my personal opinion,
99.9% of the people in cyber space are basically honest and ethical
folks. It is that small minority of cons, crooks, and hackers that
force the rest of us to be skeptical of human
nature.
As
far as giving you a firm offer on your collection - There is simply
no way to do it without physically seeing the cards. In order for
us to determine the value of the cards, you will have to send them
to us. Any reputable dealer with tell you the same thing. Bidding
on scanned images of cards is way too uncertain and would force me
to bid very conservatively - thus costing you
money.
On
some occasions we have let people bring their collections to our
office. This usually only works for the massive collections worth
several thousands of dollars. If your collection is big enough -
let's talk. But on the vast majority of collections, it does not
make sense to incur this unnecessary cost.
It
usually costs a dealer about $1000 (not counting at least a day of
his time) to fly out to bid on a collection. No matter what a
dealer says, this expense has to be passed along to the seller.
What about the people who decide NOT to sell their collections?
Guess who pays for those trips? If you said, "the seller", you are
correct. We would much rather give the travel money saved to a
seller for cards, than to the airlines for transportation
costs.
Our "secret" to buying so many collections
is that we simply pay more for cards. Our goal is to keep costs
down, so that we can continue to pay a higher dollar amount than
other dealers. We have the bidding process down to an art and it
works extremely well for us. Please understand - we are very
motivated to buy cards.
If
sending the cards makes you uncomfortable - then send several
thousand at a time. We will value the cards and contact you with an
offer. If you agree to our offer - I will send you a check. Then
send more cards - and so on it goes... Usually, after sellers
receive the first couple of checks - mailing the cards becomes a
non-issue. If my offer is unsatisfactory, then I will pay for the
postage to send the collection back to you.
The bottom line is that there is nothing
that I can really say to totally assure the seller. At some point
it will take an element of trust on the card seller's part. In
reality, it all comes down to business ethics. If you can not
develop a level of comfort, then I certainly understand. If you do
decide to send us your collection, we will certainly not violate
your trust.
I
hope that this makes sense. If so, please respond back and I will
forward our mailing address. If you would like to discuss the
specifics on the phone, then please e-mail me your number and
suggest a good time for me to call.
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"I will just hold on to the
cards. They can only go up in value,
right?"
It
seems unnatural to most people that baseball cards could ever lose
their value, but the truth is that the value of vintage cards has
not really appreciated since the early 1990's. I was a collector
when sports cards gained popularity in the 1970's and 1980's. Many
new collectors entered (or re-entered) the hobby. At that time,
card prices increased multiple times.
The values of baseball cards peaked in the
early 1990's and then decreased by 10% to 30% over the next few
years. Since that time, the card values have been relatively flat.
Many people find this last statement hard to believe, but it is
very simple to verify. Simply go online and buy a Beckett's Price
Guide from the early 1990's. (It costs less than $10 with
shipping.) You then can compare the prices of the exact same cards
with a current Beckett Guide.
Probably the most concerning trend in card
collecting is the lack of new collectors entering the hobby. The
boys of today are just not collecting sports cards (or playing
baseball) like the past generations of kids did. This point can be
verified at any of your local card shows. Twenty or thirty years
ago, we used to see a bunch of kids at the shows with their
fathers. This is no longer the case. Attendance of the shows is
down, but more importantly you mostly see middle aged
men.
Kids are spending their time and money of
different things than the kids of earlier generations. The kids are
now playing many more sports than just baseball. They also collect
different items (such as fantasy game cards) and spending their
recreation time on more interactive entertainment, like video
games.
Kids began leaving the hobby in the 1990's
when the manufactures started issuing hundreds of different sets
each year. No one seems to know what to collect anymore. In my day,
I would beg a quarter off my parents and buy packs of cards for a
nickel each at the check out counter of the neighborhood Five &
Dime. Today, most of the packs cost $5 or $10! Parents were much
more willing to give there kids a quarter for five packs of cards,
than start pulling out twenty dollar bills. Yes, times have
changed.
The market for vintage sports cards has
always been fueled by collectors who first began buying cards as
kids. As they got older and earned more money, they spent it on
more expensive cards. If kids no longer collect baseball cards,
then where is the next generation of vintage card collectors going
to come from? No one is sure. This trend has many hobby
professionals very concerned. It is hard to believe that a grown
man will begin collecting baseball cards in his forties, if he did
not collect them as a kid.
It
goes back to our Economics Model of Supply and Demand. The supply
of vintage cards is constant. Collections are sold when a collector
passes away or needs money for a special event. Dean's Cards
purchases over 500 collections each year. There is a steady supply
of vintage cards.
The demand for the cards is the issue.
Older collectors pass away every day. If new collectors do not
continue to enter the hobby, there will be no fresh demand for the
cards. If there is no demand, then the supply of cards will be
greater than the demand. We all learned in our Freshmen Economics
class that when that happens, the price of a particular item will
decrease.
There are many hobby experts who feel
strongly that this disturbing trend will continue and the price of
cards will surely decline. I personally am much more optimistic,
but even I do not see any growth (or price appreciation) happening
in the hobby. 95% of our sales are to men between the ages of 35
and 65.
I
truly hope that the experts are mistaken about the future of the
hobby and it continues to grow, but my guess is that card prices
will remain flat in the best case scenario and probably decrease
slowly over the coming years. The bottom line is that few hobby
experts feel that the value of vintage sports cards will appreciate
in the near future. Hopefully the tradition of the hobby will bring
in enough new collectors to keep that price from declining too far.
After all, this is my labor of love.
Please realize that few collectors share
this opinion. After all, what collector who has spent thousands of
dollars wants to think the value of the hobby he loves is
decreasing in value?
The people that would have the most
informed opinion are the old full-time dealers that make their
living in the card collecting hobby. Many share my opinion, but few
will express it publicly. There is no benefit to do so. None of us
wants to damage our livelihood or even hurt the hobby that we love.
Besides, we all sincerely hope we are mistaken and the hobby
continues to thrive.
The point is this: if you refuse to sell
your sports card collection because you are sure that it is going
to increase in value over time - this is not a safe bet. That was
exactly what they were saying about internet stocks just a few
years ago and we all know how that played out.
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"Why Should I Sell My Card Collection to
Dean's Cards?"
It
is truly in the best interest of Dean's Cards to pay the best
possible price for card collections. Many of the people that we buy
cards from were either referred to us or are repeat sellers. Many
were customers. Some people take years to fully liquidate their
collections. They sell us a few sets every several months or
so.
I
have often been told by people who have received bids from numerous
dealers that our offer was the highest. Quite simply, we can
usually pay a little more because we market directly to the
customer and sell a high volume of cards. If you would like us to
bid on your collection, please contact me at
dean@deanscards.com
We do not have our mailing address listed on the website, as we
always try to gage the seller's expectations and get an idea of
what they are wishing to sell before asking them to send the
collection. Please contact us through e-mail first, and then we
will be glad to provide the mailing address. The last thing I want
to do is to waste anyone's time or postage.
The bottom line is that Dean's sells
thousands of cards every week. This means WE ALWAYS NEED CARDS and
pay "top dollar" for collections. From the customer feedback that
we receive, we pay more for cards than other dealers. We would
appreciate the opportunity to bid on your
collection.
Your time and consideration is greatly
appreciated,
Dean Hanley
Owner of Dean's Cards
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